that is whether you have a collective bargaining or a union in china or not. even though the average u.s. factory workers still makes considerably more than the chinese worker, in absolute terms, it is less of a gap that has been in years. -- vana has been in years. when you factor in a higher level of sophistication and training that the chinese workers and u.s. workers have, as well as the benefits of having it based here and you can create these happy cycles of rapid productivity innovation, there is an increasing return on investment to u.s. workers, and a relatively declining one on chinese labor pipa -- chinese labor. host: let's go to richard on the republican line. caller: one thing that the president and congressional leaders have to recognize is that we are in a trade war and we are barely participating. i would favor donald trump's attitude or mitt romney's attitude. a little more aggressive stance on china. and getting our jobs back. i think they should be labeled a currency manipulator, things like that. we are not participating in this trade war.